New Mot Proposals

[Guest Mister Dabsy]

By any chance, has anyone heard about the new proposals to lengthen MOT tests?

There are about three or four different suggestions about the time spans between testing a vehicle...

4 yrs for new cars then every 2yrs thereafter.

4 yrs and 1 yr

... And other variations TBH...

Personally, I think the Government are bored :P

[G4VHD]

Originally Posted by From another website There are to be some changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs:

4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:

(a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements

(B) Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour

© Light source and lamp not compatible

4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):

(a) Device not operating.

(B) Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.

4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory):

Device not operating.

For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.

6.1.9 Engine performance:

(a) Control unit illegal modified.

(B) Illegal engine modification.

(by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)

There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:

4.11. Electrical wiring

(a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.

(B) Wiring deteriorated.

© Damaged or deteriorated insulation

and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems:

7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:

Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.

7.1.5. Airbag:

(a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.

(B) Airbag obviously non-operative.

7.1.6. SRS Systems:

SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.

[G4VHD]

Originally Posted by VOSA The car/light goods vehicle MOT test is about to change – the European Commission has changed the Directive that covers it. We take a look at when these changes are likely to come into effect and what they mean for MOT testers.

Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the European Directive covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/ EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year.

The new Directive keeps the EU minimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directive anticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes?

In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends ‘to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year’. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way.

We expect to hear more details of the government’s review proposals later in the year.

As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.

In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.

Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.

Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations.

Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester – when we know for sure what that is we’ll be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what the impact will be.

The common EU test certificate should be relatively easy to achieve – the only data that the Directive expects and that we don’t currently provide is the symbol for the vehicle’s country of origin. Probably 99% of vehicles tested will have

‘UK’ entered here, but if you do test vehicles with a foreign plate, you will need to enter the correct country symbol. We may even be able to make this change earlier if there is a convenient opportunity.

The MOT trade can rest assured that VOSA is working closely with you to introduce any new elements as efficiently and effectively as possible, with the minimum of fuss. Just as importantly, we are also working closely with Siemens to ensure that any system changes due on New Year’s Eve 2011 go smoothly! We should know more by the time the MOT seminars take place – come along and ask the experts.

[Guest Mister Dabsy]

Nice find Gav, I heard of the time spans between tests on Radio2...

If they lengthen them then I think more prosecutions would be successful about the state of a car after either being pulled over or involved in an RTA.

This means that more pressure will be put on the driver, especially the non mechanically minded and the less well-off driver that changes parts which are not necessary...

[G4VHD]

I disagree with making the times between mots longer, there are some !Removed! dodgy cars on the road lol

Also I agree with HID kits failing, the do my head in.

I disagree with all the rest, money making imo

[Guest Mister Dabsy]

Me too, mate... Just another con...

Everyone hates taking their beloved car every year, but it's peace of mind and good for some cars to go to the scrappy too!

[Guest Mister Dabsy]

DID YOU KNOW...

If your car doesn't have a windscreen, it cannot be failed on that? LOL Where is the madness in that?

[Turbo]

I think it should stay as it is,as above too many dodgy cars about!

[Greeney2k1]

Keep it every 12 months. MOT's arent worth the paper theyre written on anyways

The amount of time I have seen people put standard parts on to pass an MOT then replace them with "Illegal" parts the day after.

If I have a peice of paper saying my car is road legal in theory 6 months down the line it should be exactly the same condition!?? Although brake pipes etc may break at any moment or bushes can split in any second im classed as "road legal" pfft.

Keep it every 12 months and let my wallet have a good bashing every 12 months to ensure that safety is upkept.....but dont charge us more for the privilage

[Guest Mister Dabsy]

I agree... We'd be no better off either because a two year MOT would be much harsher and cost more than twice the current yearly rate !!