Hi Mart, Many thanks mate, I really didnt want to go about a 2 ltr as 95% of my driving is urban, and I dont want to be forever filling it with jungle juice. I know the 318's are slow as they are such heavy cars, so I wondered if the 2 ltr would be any better if if it was refined anymore. And the fact I need to curb my enthusiam with my right foot too! lol Im looking at an E36 mate. I now have a choice of two (once the Mondeo has been sold) Monrteal Blue 318 cab, with 100k and elctric roof or Boston Green 2.0i cab with 86k FSH loads of paperwork, and Manual roof. decisions decisions lol Many Thanks for your help! Best Regards Steve