thanks guys i will try and get the front end up tomoz at work the tyre size is 235 45 17 no knocking when driving over speed bumps or anything like that . did check all the track control arms and the nut that holds them on just incase a bolt was moving about but have been told poss steering box prob does it sound like it could be that ?? to be honest its suspention is acting a bit like a cortina or granada used to ???