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Greydog,   Thanks for all the help! I think the problem is in the stationary part that opens and closes the micro switch.  The original micro switch is open-- closed---open. The Chinese mirror micro is open---closed. I have concluded per your advice and research to dump the Chinese mirrors and find some good used originals and start over. Many thanks again for your input.  Huba

On 8/2/2019 at 1:14 AM, Greydog said:

Test the switch it will be (a) normally open or (b) normally closed then check against your original switches. Check the original switch, from memory they are normally open and when at their extent of travel (Mirror Out) give a Ground signal. At extent of travel (Mirror Closed) no signal. Both door mirrors have to provide the same signal via the bus system to the Control module or they won't work and the default is open. Your car at 2005 should be Ibus (Coms) and Kbus communication between modules, later cars are Most bus so signal values are completely different. Are the new mirrors for a newer model? Your car mirrors are linked through the (a) drivers door window control module (b) seat memory adjustment module to (c) the ZKE general control module, is the drivers door module OK is the seat control module functioning correctly? Dumb question there is power to the door mirrors? 

Have a look at www.newtis.info for wiring diagrams but without knowing how the new mirrors are configured we are just "guessing" which is not good. Personally I would take out one of the original switches get the part number from it plus any other ID marks and try people like Radio Shack or RS components (Maplins aren't around any more) even the switch manufactures and get replacements they wont be expensive and you will be able to get them working. Send the others back and ask for your money back or sell them on. Probably not what you want to hear but that would be my course of action.

On 8/2/2019 at 1:14 AM, Greydog said:

Test the switch it will be (a) normally open or (b) normally closed then check against your original switches. Check the original switch, from memory they are normally open and when at their extent of travel (Mirror Out) give a Ground signal. At extent of travel (Mirror Closed) no signal. Both door mirrors have to provide the same signal via the bus system to the Control module or they won't work and the default is open. Your car at 2005 should be Ibus (Coms) and Kbus communication between modules, later cars are Most bus so signal values are completely different. Are the new mirrors for a newer model? Your car mirrors are linked through the (a) drivers door window control module (b) seat memory adjustment module to (c) the ZKE general control module, is the drivers door module OK is the seat control module functioning correctly? Dumb question there is power to the door mirrors? 

Have a look at www.newtis.info for wiring diagrams but without knowing how the new mirrors are configured we are just "guessing" which is not good. Personally I would take out one of the original switches get the part number from it plus any other ID marks and try people like Radio Shack or RS components (Maplins aren't around any more) even the switch manufactures and get replacements they wont be expensive and you will be able to get them working. Send the others back and ask for your money back or sell them on. Probably not what you want to hear but that would be my course of action.

Greydog, The cheap Chinese mirrors only have two wires, so hoe do I deal with that?     Huba

Greydog, you got me wrong. I don't know what I'm doing, I'm just trying to clarify why you say to reverse polarity since I believe the switch is just "on"  "off".  I also didn't know  you could buy the micro switches separately. The left hand mirror was trash anyway.. So help me to finish this mess please, the cheap Chinese mirrors won't fix themselves.  Thanks,  Huba

O.K. Greydog, How would I do that? cut the two wires and solder them opposite to each other and why do you think that would fix it ? Thanks , Huba

I have a 2005 BMW X5 with folding mirror problems . The micro switch on the left mirror was broken, I replaced the mirror with anew mirror from KOOL-VUE--no fix. So I replaced the right mirror with  mirror from KOOL-VUE-- still the same problem. Checking on the function of the micro switch, I found on the original mirror the micro switch is on-off- on as the mirror is moved from the normal position to the park position. The KOOL- VUE is on- off as you move it. Does anyone have any info on how the micro switch should function? Does anyone have any experience with KOOL-VUE? It is made in China and they have no tech support. Please help.   Huba